| [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #234600] |
Mo, 06 März 2006 04:09 |
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A recent Language Log post ended with the words, "Send me
counterexamples, whether found or concocted, and I'll post them".
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002898.h tml
Some of us - you know who you are - can't resist a challenge. So I
racked my brains and sent along some comments and suggestions.
It's nothing very interesting or significant, but hey, it was
published!
Adrian.
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| Re:[A](was {I}) I got quoted on Language Log [message #234661 ] |
Mo, 06 März 2006 23:03 |
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Also Sprach Flesh-eating Dragon:
> A recent Language Log post ended with the words, "Send me
> counterexamples, whether found or concocted, and I'll post
> them".
>
> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002898.h
> tml
>
> Some of us - you know who you are - can't resist a
> challenge. So I racked my brains and sent along some
> comments and suggestions.
>
> It's nothing very interesting or significant, but hey, it
> was published!
Go, Adrian!
BTW, (and here's why I changed the tag) one of those who's
used the phrase to describe accountants is Pterry, in
Pyramids. Ptaclusp IIb says to Ptaclusp IIa "The trouble with
you, sibling, is that you know..."
In addition, IIa's lame rejoinder "The trouble with *you* is -
is - is that you *don't*!" might be intended as a reference to
Graham's more witty response in the play, similar to the way
various characters in SM fail to come up with clever responses
to the question "What are you rebelling against?"
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Be reasonable, demand the impossible now" -Robb Johnson
"Run before you walk, fly before you crawl" -Moist von Lipwig
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| Re: Re:[A](was {I}) I got quoted on Language Log [message #234668 ] |
Mo, 06 März 2006 23:45 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Also Sprach Flesh-eating Dragon:
>
> > A recent Language Log post ended with the words, "Send me
> > counterexamples, whether found or concocted, and I'll post
> > them".
> >
> > http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002898.h
> > tml
> >
> > Some of us - you know who you are - can't resist a
> > challenge. So I racked my brains and sent along some
> > comments and suggestions.
> >
> > It's nothing very interesting or significant, but hey, it
> > was published!
>
> Go, Adrian!
>
> BTW, (and here's why I changed the tag) one of those who's
> used the phrase to describe accountants is Pterry, in
> Pyramids. Ptaclusp IIb says to Ptaclusp IIa "The trouble with
> you, sibling, is that you know..."
For the benefit of people who read news offline or for some other
reason have decided not to check the link in my previous post, I
submitted an entry to a challenge in which the idea was to invent an
original variation of Oscar Wilde's "A cynic is someone who knows the
price of everything and the value of nothing".
At the time, the best I could come up with is: "A materialist is
someone who knows the cause of everything and the reason for nothing".
This was published, as were some other comments of mine.
I've since come up with another version: "A mathematician is someone
who knows the function of everything and the purpose of nothing".
I'm sure AFP could invent others, if it put its mind to it.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #234678 ] |
Di, 07 März 2006 00:29 |
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Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
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> For the benefit of people who read news offline or for some other
> reason have decided not to check the link in my previous post, I
> submitted an entry to a challenge in which the idea was to invent an
> original variation of Oscar Wilde's "A cynic is someone who knows the
> price of everything and the value of nothing".
>
> At the time, the best I could come up with is: "A materialist is
> someone who knows the cause of everything and the reason for nothing".
> This was published, as were some other comments of mine.
>
> I've since come up with another version: "A mathematician is someone
> who knows the function of everything and the purpose of nothing".
>
> I'm sure AFP could invent others, if it put its mind to it.
AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything and the meaning of
nothing.
Orjan
--
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http://tale.cunobaros.com
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #234712 ] |
Di, 07 März 2006 08:45 |
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:29:32 -0000, "Orjan Westin" <nospam [at] cunobaros.com>
wrote:
>AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything and the meaning of
>nothing.
And can debate it for *hours*.
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| Re: Re:[A](was {I}) I got quoted on Language Log [message #234732 ] |
Di, 07 März 2006 14:49 |
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Flesh-eating Dragon said:
> I've since come up with another version: "A mathematician is someone
> who knows the function of everything and the purpose of nothing".
>
> I'm sure AFP could invent others, if it put its mind to it.
It's a bit of a stretch, I know, but in celebration of Terry's "in the
beginning, there was nothing, which exploded", I offer the following:
Stephen Hawkings knows the Theory of Everything, and the Practicality of
Nothing.
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #234736 ] |
Di, 07 März 2006 14:54 |
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geminii [at] tpg.com.au wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:29:32 -0000, "Orjan Westin"
> <nospam [at] cunobaros.com> wrote:
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>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything and the
>> meaning of nothing.
>
> And can debate it for *hours*.
With the way some newsserver refeeds old posts, *months*.
Regards,
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*Art
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #234918 ] |
Mi, 08 März 2006 07:59 |
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geminii [at] tpg.com.au wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:29:32 -0000, "Orjan Westin" <nospam [at] cunobaros.com>
> wrote:
>
>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything and the meaning of
>> nothing.
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> And can debate it for *hours*.
That's what makes it so much fun.
n
and I'm not being sarcastic either.
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| Re: [A](was {I}) I got quoted on Language Log [message #235003 ] |
Mi, 08 März 2006 17:25 |
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Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
> . . .I submitted an entry to a challenge in which the idea was to invent an
> original variation of Oscar Wilde's "A cynic is someone who knows the
> price of everything and the value of nothing".
>
> At the time, the best I could come up with is: "A materialist is
> someone who knows the cause of everything and the reason for nothing".
> This was published, as were some other comments of mine.
>
> I've since come up with another version: "A mathematician is someone
> who knows the function of everything and the purpose of nothing".
>
> I'm sure AFP could invent others, if it put its mind to it.
>
As a disgruntled Canadian voter(1), I have decided
that Canadian politicians fail to achieve even cynicism.
They know the price of everything, and the COST of nothing.
(1) I lost all my gruntles during the Common Sense Revolution.
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Cheers,
Elliott
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| Re: [A](was {I}) I got quoted on Language Log [message #235012 ] |
Mi, 08 März 2006 18:51 |
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in article iADPf.2278$xM2.155011 [at] news20.bellglobal.com, Elliott Grasett at
egrasett [at] sympatico.ca wrote on 08/03/2006 8:25 AM:
> Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
>> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>>
>> . . .I submitted an entry to a challenge in which the idea was to invent an
>> original variation of Oscar Wilde's "A cynic is someone who knows the
>> price of everything and the value of nothing".
>>
>> At the time, the best I could come up with is: "A materialist is
>> someone who knows the cause of everything and the reason for nothing".
>> This was published, as were some other comments of mine.
>>
>> I've since come up with another version: "A mathematician is someone
>> who knows the function of everything and the purpose of nothing".
>>
>> I'm sure AFP could invent others, if it put its mind to it.
>>
>
> As a disgruntled Canadian voter(1), I have decided
> that Canadian politicians fail to achieve even cynicism.
> They know the price of everything, and the COST of nothing.
>
> (1) I lost all my gruntles during the Common Sense Revolution.
Canadian Prime Ministers know the price of everyone and the needs of no-one.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #235046 ] |
Mi, 08 März 2006 21:35 |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:29:32 +0000, Orjan Westin wrote:
> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything and the meaning of
> nothing.
That mean's your included too Orjan! :-)
All the best
Sofie
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Please visit my deviantART page: http://sofen.deviantart.com/
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #235066 ] |
Mi, 08 März 2006 22:13 |
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Sofia wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:29:32 +0000, Orjan Westin wrote:
>
>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything and the
>> meaning of nothing.
>
>
> That mean's your included too Orjan! :-)
What do you mean?
Orjan
--
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http://tale.cunobaros.com
Or just read it there, if you don't want the illustrations
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #235073 ] |
Mi, 08 März 2006 22:33 |
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Orjan Westin said:
> Sofia wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:29:32 +0000, Orjan Westin wrote:
>>
>>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything and the
>>> meaning of nothing.
>>
>>
>> That mean's your included too Orjan! :-)
>
> What do you mean?
How do you define "mean"?
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #235082 ] |
Mi, 08 März 2006 23:02 |
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Also Sprach Richard Heathfield:
> Orjan Westin said:
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>> Sofia wrote:
>>> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:29:32 +0000, Orjan Westin wrote:
>>>
>>>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything
>>>> and the meaning of nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>> That mean's your included too Orjan! :-)
>>
>> What do you mean?
>
> How do you define "mean"?
Kind of like "selfish"?
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Be reasonable, demand the impossible now" -Robb Johnson
"Run before you walk, fly before you crawl" -Moist von Lipwig
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| Re: [A](was {I}) I got quoted on Language Log [message #235122 ] |
Do, 09 März 2006 01:06 |
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Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Flesh-eating Dragon said:
>
>
>>I've since come up with another version: "A mathematician is someone
>>who knows the function of everything and the purpose of nothing".
>>
>>I'm sure AFP could invent others, if it put its mind to it.
>
>
> It's a bit of a stretch, I know, but in celebration of Terry's "in the
> beginning, there was nothing, which exploded", I offer the following:
>
> Stephen Hawkings knows the Theory of Everything, and the Practicality of
> Nothing.
>
Minor nitpick - from context I am assuming you mean Stephen Hawking - no
- S. Otherwise - not bad ;)
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| Re: [A](was {I}) I got quoted on Language Log [message #235127 ] |
Do, 09 März 2006 02:11 |
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Rick Finucane said:
> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>
>> Stephen Hawkings knows the Theory of Everything, and the Practicality of
>> Nothing.
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> Minor nitpick - from context I am assuming you mean Stephen Hawking - no
> - S.
Yeah, I was probably mixing his name up with that of Richard Dawkins.
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #235235 ] |
Do, 09 März 2006 16:20 |
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On 8 Mar 2006 22:02:01 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
<daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote:
>Also Sprach Richard Heathfield:
>
>> Orjan Westin said:
>>
>>> Sofia wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:29:32 +0000, Orjan Westin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything
>>>>> and the meaning of nothing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That mean's your included too Orjan! :-)
>>>
>>> What do you mean?
>>
>> How do you define "mean"?
>
>Kind of like "selfish"?
Is that like a crustacean?
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #235240 ] |
Do, 09 März 2006 16:55 |
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Lister said:
> On 8 Mar 2006 22:02:01 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
> <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote:
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>>Also Sprach Richard Heathfield:
>>
>>> Orjan Westin said:
>>>
>>>> Sofia wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:29:32 +0000, Orjan Westin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything
>>>>>> and the meaning of nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That mean's your included too Orjan! :-)
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean?
>>>
>>> How do you define "mean"?
>>
>>Kind of like "selfish"?
>
>
> Is that like a crustacean?
There are three giant crustaceans in London:
King's Crustacean
Charing Crustacean
St Pan Crustacean
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #235277 ] |
Do, 09 März 2006 19:26 |
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in article dupj63$9e3$1 [at] nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com, Richard
Heathfield at invalid [at] invalid.invalid wrote on 09/03/2006 7:55 AM:
> Lister said:
>
>> On 8 Mar 2006 22:02:01 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
>> <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also Sprach Richard Heathfield:
>>>
>>>> Orjan Westin said:
>>>>
>>>>> Sofia wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:29:32 +0000, Orjan Westin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything
>>>>>>> and the meaning of nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That mean's your included too Orjan! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean?
>>>>
>>>> How do you define "mean"?
>>>
>>> Kind of like "selfish"?
>>
>>
>> Is that like a crustacean?
>
> There are three giant crustaceans in London:
>
> King's Crustacean
> Charing Crustacean
> St Pan Crustacean
There are also furry crustaceans in the South Pacific.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4785482.stm
HTH. HAND.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #235304 ] |
Do, 09 März 2006 20:36 |
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Richard Heathfield <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Lister said:
>> On 8 Mar 2006 22:02:01 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
>> <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kind of like "selfish"?
>>
>> Is that like a crustacean?
>
> There are three giant crustaceans in London:
>
> King's Crustacean
> Charing Crustacean
> St Pan Crustacean
Hey, that's one dead crab too many. You're only allowed two carrions.
--
*Art
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| Re: [I] I got quoted on Language Log [message #299651 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 11:37 |
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On 7/Mar/2006 Arthur Hagen wrote:
> geminii [at] tpg.com.au wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:29:32 -0000, "Orjan Westin"
>> <nospam [at] cunobaros.com> wrote:
>>
>>> AFP is a group that knows the definition of everything and the
>>> meaning of nothing.
>>
>> And can debate it for *hours*.
>
> With the way some newsserver refeeds old posts, *months*.
>
> Regards,
Surely not...
(Genuinely still catching up[1], and couldn't resist... ;)
/wants Thunderbird thread representation to be more like OE's
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